In the Spotlight: Nancy McCabe

January 28th, 2015

As many of you know, I’ve started a new occasional feature on my blog — a series of author interviews called In the Spotlight. I have so many friends who are writing so many amazing, wonderful,  stellar books, books that you simply MUST know about and read, that I decided it’s time I got busy and shared them with all of you!

Stepping into the spotlight today is Nancy McCabe. We’re online friends, thanks to a listserv for people who love Maud Hart Lovelace’s Betsy-Tacy books! It’s amazing how books bring people together, isn’t it?

Nancy McCabe

Nancy McCabe

Nancy is a professor of writing and director of the writing program at the University of Pittsburgh at Bradford, and she also teaches in the MFA program in creative writing at Spalding University. How she manages to fit in time to write on top of her teaching responsibilities is impressive!

Another thing that Nancy and I share, in addition to a love for all things Betsy-Tacy, is a love of literary travel. Some of you may recall hearing about my trip to England in search of Jane Austen (click here to read the article I wrote about it for The Christian Science Monitor). That’s small potatoes compared to what Nancy did, though! She literally criss-crossed North America to visit the settings for a number of her favorite children’s books (many of which happen to be my favorites, too!). The result is her wonderful new book FROM LITTLE HOUSES TO LITTLE WOMEN: REVISITING A LITERARY CHILDHOOD (University of Missouri Press).

book cover

And now it’s time to pull up a chair, pour a cup of tea, and settle in for a visit with Nancy.

Q: Can you tell us a bit about the inspiration for your book and how it came about?

A: I’ve always loved children’s literature and have taught a few classes in it. In my early forties, when my daughter was young, I started rereading favorite books from my own childhood and talking about them with my friend Sara. During those years, I lost my mother and her last living sister, both of whom had been a huge influence on my childhood reading, and during those years, I started making trips to tourist sites related to my favorite authors.

At first I was just doing most of this for fun, but I kept journals on my reading and my travels and they began to evolve into a book, a travel and reading memoir with literary and cultural criticism blended in. Since I am not a scholar of children’s literature, and in fact didn’t enjoy critical writing when I was in graduate school, I felt a lot of trepidation throughout the process and wasn’t sure if I’d ever finish or publish it. But I found myself getting into many inspiring conversations with others who’d loved the same books, and those nudged me on. I learned a lot in the process, and came to some unexpected insights about the books, and am delighted to be able to share my journey with other passionate readers. And I love it when they contact me to share their own insights and experiences.

Q: Looking back at your travels, can you choose one favorite literary destination? (or maybe two, if it’s not possible to narrow it down—I know how that goes!)

A: This is such a hard question!   I was fascinated by so many places for different reasons. I’d been living on the east coast for several years when I drove across Kansas to the site of the Little House on the Prairie, and I felt a much stronger sense of connection to my native state than I expected. I loved going to the farmhouse in Mansfield, MO, the motherlode of Laura Ingalls Wilder artifacts, and a place I had been to several times during my younger years. Going to Mankato, MN was like rediscovering books I had almost forgotten about, Maud Hart Lovelace’s Betsy Tacy books. I loved Prince Edward Island and all of the evidence of the pride people in Cavendish and Charlottetown feel there about Lucy Maud Montgomery and Anne of Green Gables. In Concord, MA, I loved learning about all of the connections between writers like Alcott, Emerson, Thoreau, Fuller, and Hawthorne—it is such a rich place, and the Wayside, where several authors had once lived, including Alcott, Hawthorne, and the children’s writer who wrote under the name Margaret Sidney, was inspiring.

I realize this answer is sort of a sneaky way of not narrowing down my answer to just one place—but I have to say that my absolute favorite place was a destination I hadn’t meant to include in the book—the Emily Dickinson house in Amherst, MA. I loved that it was not just historical, but that docents really focused on talking about her work throughout the tour. Being there brought back memories of transitioning into adult literature as I discovered Dickinson when I was young, and connected powerfully to this quirky, suberversive poet. But almost all of the places I visited led to revelations about how books had had a hand in shaping me into who I became and what mattered to me.

Q: What was the hardest part of the project? The easiest?

A: Rereading so many books—more than 100—and reading criticism and doing research were unexpected joys—work, but fun, relatively easy work, bringing back memories and leading to connections and discoveries. And I loved traveling places and then spending time every night writing about them in my journal, so it felt like I got to live everything twice.

The hardest part was that I wasn’t sure for years what the project was, what shape if any it was going to take. So I’d write parts of it, then stall for long periods. I wrote many other things in between working on it, essays and memoir about things that were more in my comfort zone, like about raising an adopted child and traveling with her back to China. But I kept coming back to this project, putting it through a lot of revision and reshaping, because the fun parts kept me motivated.

Q: What was/were the biggest surprises along the way?

A: I learned lots of things I didn’t know about many authors and books, and was repeatedly startled at the way details from the books had remained in my subconscious, influencing things from decorating choices to philosophies, my identity, and even, at times, decisions I had made. I experienced some huge moments of revelation that surprised me, and even some moments that made my head spin a little.

Like when my brother found the deed to our childhood home and discovered that the Osage Indians had sold that land around the same time that the Ingalls family had left Osage territory a little more than a hundred miles away. Or in DeSmet, SD, when it became clear to me why I’d gone through a period of disillusionment with the Little House series as a teenager. Or when I was writing about Little Women, a book I came to love because my mother and aunts loved it, especially an aunt who died of lupus when I was 17.

It was fascinating to me how much Jo had influenced my desire to be a writer, and how much Beth’s beautiful Victorian death shaped my own ideas of death and grief when my aunt was dying. When I discovered that Louisa May Alcott was believed to have had lupus, a theory that came about 25 years after my aunt’s death, I was startled by that connection. My mother and aunts read all of Alcott’s work, and may have read biographies; I will never know if my aunt recognized something familiar in Alcott’s patterns of illness and remission, but it was an idea that intrigued me.

Q: Tell us a bit about taking your daughter along, and sharing these favorite books and destinations with her. Did the experience turn out as you imagined?

A: Some of these books were a hard sell with my Chinese-American daughter, who has been dragged all over the place visiting these sites since she was nine years old—sites where she was almost always the only person who wasn’t white. She enjoyed learning about pioneer life, even if she had to play a lot of pump organs and sit in a lot of covered wagons and admire a lot of Pa fiddle replicas. Though she sometimes complained about long hours in the car, as soon as we arrived home, she said, “Let’s do that again.” That’s part of what motivated me to go with friends to PEI and read aloud to her Anne of Green Gables, which she LOVED, although she found Anne bizarrely sadomasochistic and laughed her head off at her desire for “bosom” friends.

I couldn’t get her to read the Betsy-Tacy books, which may be my all-time favorites. She was busy making her way through Coretta Scott King award winners. She was much more interested in books about people from other cultures—books by Bette Bao Lorde, Gloria Whelan, Pam Munoz Ryan, Sharon Draper, Mildred Taylor, Jacqueline Woodsen, Andrea Cheng, Christina Gonzalez. I read many of these and loved them, too. My daughter’s reading interests reminded me of how important it is to expose children to a variety of literature and backgrounds and cultures.

Going back to an earlier question, I was a bit surprised at how homogenous the books I read really were, all published within a hundred years of each other, the first hundred or so years that children’s literature was really emerging as a category. We are now in an era of amazing and wonderful developments in children’s literature and I hope that my daughter will someday remember the books she read as a child as fondly as I do mine. And I hope that we’ll continue to influence each other’s reading just as my mother and aunts and friends have passed books back and forth throughout our lives.

Q: Do you have a favorite anecdote to share from your travels?

A: We were really hungry and almost out of gas when we reached the highway that was supposed to take us to Walnut Grove, MN—and it was closed. There was no way to backtrack without running out of gas, so I drove down the shoulder of the closed highway for at least ten miles. It was deserted and kind of apocalyptic and actually a little scary, because I was in the middle of nowhere with an empty tank, a dying cell phone, and a sleeping child in the back seat. It helped me to imagine what it was like to be a pioneer, making do with what you had, venturing into the unknown.

Sophie and I also reminisce about the pantyhose people in Burr Oak, IA—life-sized recreations of the Ingalls family made out of old hose, sitting on the furniture in the living room of the Master’s Hotel. Such a strange and creepy but loving tribute made, in the pioneer spirit, with materials at hand.

Burr OakNancy and Sophie visit Burr Oak, Iowa

Q: This isn’t really a question, but I just love this picture of you and your daughter!  It really captures the spirit of the book.

A: Thank you so much for doing this interview, Heather (and I hope you will print this part!). Through my book, I really wanted to explore how the reading we do when young becomes a part of us, lives on in many different ways. I wanted to examine classic books not as dusty, static items, but as things that remain alive and inspiring even in a changing landscape of children’s literature. I admire your Mother-Daughter Book Club series because through great characterizations and stories, it also reminds us of the continuing relevance of classic stories.

Why thank you, Nancy! You and I are kindred spirits for sure. And thanks so much for visiting with me today.

And now readers, I have a copy of FROM LITTLE HOUSES TO LITTLE WOMEN to give away! Just leave a comment below, letting us know what setting from a favorite children’s book you’d travel to if you could.

Winners will be chosen at random at midnight on February 8th. US and Canada only, please. Share this giveaway on your blog or Facebook or Twitter or other social media for additional entries. (And if you tweet or blog or otherwise share on social media, please leave a link in the comments below so I can assign you an extra entry.) 

37 Responses to “In the Spotlight: Nancy McCabe”

  1. Katy says:

    Ooh this looks wonderful!
    If I could go to any setting, I’d probably go to… wherever in New England Little Women was set, since I can’t find where exactly it takes place.
    So excited to read this book at some point in the future!

  2. Robin says:

    Hands down, no contest, Prince Edward Island and Green Gables! Can’t wait to buy Nancy’s book! Thanks for this interesting interview.

  3. Brooke says:

    That’s a hard one! I love so many books. I think i would either go to London and visit Harry Potter places like kings cross station and all of that. Or go to concord and visit all the Mother Daughter Book Club landmarks like Louisa Alcotts house. Is there an actual Kimball Farm in Concord? Or did you base it of an ice cream place? If there is I would deffinetely go to Kimball Farm.

  4. Maria says:

    Deep Valley, no question. What I wouldn’t do to go to high school with Betsy and Tacy!

  5. Ivan Shellenbarger says:

    I have visited both Prince Edward Island and Mankato, Minnesota (as you know) because they were the settings of Anne of Green Gables and Betsy-tacy, respectively.

  6. Juni says:

    I would visit Laguna Beach, California, the town Cassidy Sloane lived in before moving to Massachusetts. A part of me has always been attracted to Cali; the sunsets, the waves, and the overall atmosphere. I know I would love it there.

  7. Virginia says:

    Concord Massachusetts to be best friends with Emma and visit half moon farm! LONG LIVE THE GIRLS OF THE MDBC!!!!!

  8. What a wonderful book concept — I look forward to reading it! I either would visit Klickitat Street in Portland, OR, home of the Quimby family, or the Hudson River basin north of NYC toward Tarrytown, home of Ichabod Crane and ‘Sheila the Great’ but also setting for Michael Buckley’s Ferryport Landing, home of Daphne & Sabrina Grimm. I’ve never had the chance to see that part of the country, which seems to hold magic for many stories, but the ‘Sisters Grimm’ and ‘Ramona’ series holds a special place in my heart thanks to when my eldest read them.

  9. Jen D-K says:

    Since I’ve now visited the lands of Betsy-Tacy and Anne of Green Gables, I think I’d like to prowl around Vashon Island, Puget Sound, and the other real-life settings of Betty MacDonald’s books — I love her so much!!!! (And yes, I would have An Adventure on Puget Sound — and I would not neglect the salmon fisheries!)

  10. M says:

    I know this has nothing to do with the article, but I was just wondering if you were going to write more Pumpkin Falls mystery books. I really love Absolutely Truly!

  11. Mikki says:

    As much as I love Betsy-Tacy and Little WOmen which I loved to tatters, my favorite overall remains Understood Betsy. I still read it occasionally. I have been to Concord, Mankato, and PEI although wasn’t yet aware of Anne when on PEI. But PEI remains one of the most heavenly places on earth to me – so peaceful!

    I lived 22 years in Los Angeles and it’s everything Juni said it is. But I’m thrilled to be home in MA now.

    I will get Nancy’s book from the local library and look forward to reading it. I’m also a huge fan of Heather, now own all of the Mother-Daughter books and look forward to another Truly!

  12. deb says:

    The Laura Ingalls sites, esp. DeSmet. I’m lucky enough to have been to PEI (since my grandmother was from NS) and to Mankato, and I live here in Ma.

    I’m disgusted to find that the Minuteman Library system does not own this book! Next time I am at the library I’ll put in a buy request.

  13. Madelyn says:

    That is so cool! I will definetly look into this book now 🙂 I’d like to travel to Gigi’s cafe, from the MDBC series, and experience the delicious-ness of the desserts and the comforting feeling, annd the cozy, safe feeling of being there, as dipicted in the wonderful books 🙂
    And of course, I’d like to stop by at Kimball Farm (Good idea, Brooke!) 🙂

  14. Colleen Ann Canaavan says:

    I so enjoy Deep Valley/Mankato and all the related BetsyTacy sites in the area!

  15. Phyllis Popplewell says:

    Deep Valley, MN.

  16. Sue says:

    Lancaster, Pennsylvania & the Amish country around it. Henry’s Lydia was such a special book for me, and a large part of my book-time for years-the pictures, the story, the setting. Plus, my godparents were from the area near Lancaster, and spoke often of it, so that trip would be a double pleasure!

  17. Terri Welch says:

    Prince Edward Island.
    And Mankato.
    Don’t make me choose.

  18. Zoie says:

    Ooh, there’s so many! I’d have to say Avonlea, where Green Gables is, and where I could visit the Lake of Shining Waters. The setting at Anne of Green Gables was so vividly described I know it’d be as beautiful as mentioned in the books!

  19. I’ve already read the book, so don’t enter me in the giveaway … just wanted to say thanks for doing the interview, and thanks to Nancy for writing such a thoroughly enjoyable book. I loved revisiting all my childhood favorites and learning more about their authors and settings. A gem of a book!

  20. Jeanine says:

    I’m fortunate enough to have been to Mankato, DeSmet, Walnut Grove and Cavendish…so I think I would pick Mansfield and Concord. Glad to hear there’s a real Kimball Farms, and very glad to hear there will be a sequel to Absolutely Truly! I’m nearly finished Nancy’s book and it’s very interesting!

  21. Angela Havel says:

    It’s a tie between the California ranch country of John Steinbeck’s *The Red Pony* and the Texas hill country of Fred Gipson’s *Old Yeller*. In fifth grade, we each wrote to our favorite author and I got a gracious reply from Fred Gipson, who, in reference to my mentioning that I had a pony named Red, told me John Steinbeck was a good friend of his. I liked books with female protagonists too, but for some reason these two stories resonated even more deeply with me.

  22. Stephanie Martin says:

    Well, I’ve been to Mankato, can’t make it to Oz, so I think I would choose pre World-War-I Hungary, to meet Jansci and Kate of The Good Master, by Kate Seredy. Her books seem to have been forgotten, but they are really good as to both characters and atmosphere. When, many years after reading them, I finally visited Hungary,we went to a sort of riding competition, and I was thrilled to see young horsemen dressed just like Jansci!

  23. Con Martin says:

    Great interview. I also enjoy literary pilgrimages, not just Mankato and Prince Edward Island, but last summer I visited Fort Louisbourg in Nova Scotia, setting of Nancy Bond’s Another Shore which I recommend. I got a little carried away and sent a rhapsodic postcard to the author.

  24. Hannah says:

    I’d really like to visit Concord (like many others), because I love the way you described it in the MDBC books!

  25. Jennifer Hunsicker says:

    Way to go, Nancy! Too many possibilities to choose from for children’s book travel. So glad you did this and made this book happen! I especially love the Anne of Green Gables series, Little House books, Little Women, and Beatrix Potter books from my childhood.

  26. Lucinda says:

    Concord! To see where the MDBC books took place! But also Prince Edward Island!

  27. Mireya says:

    My favorite place of all time would be the Library of Congress in Washington D.C. It is the perfect place for a girl who dreams of studying law and enjoys writing.
    I really enjoyed your interview!
    I can’t wait to read Yours Truly and the 7th MDBC book!
    Absolutely Truly is an awesome story!
    I read it twice!

  28. Barbara /zagridbuj says:

    The Big Hill – from BT series of course. That sense of adventure coupled with a tiny bit of pride that they can make their world horizons wider.

  29. Anika says:

    I’d go to the Ingalls house…the little house on the prairie were some of my first read and favorite books when I was younger.

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